And they just carry on going further and further to find their way home. Right. And I, I don’t know, but I think it’s going to take like selective breeding to get this like thing that wants to I don’t know what stops these things just from flying away. Exactly. That’s what I can’t understand. It’s like they’ve they’ve basically get set free.
Jerry. Can they keep them on like when they do in the train and direct and they keep them on a bit of strength track and they just like, tie a bit of string around their hoof and like. The, you know, 100 meter long piece of string. Oh. Hold on. What do you think a pigeon looks like? I say, it’s the Talon.
It’s. Yeah, it’s the, To see that astronomy was the price of a. Just a quick Google. Yeah, the average price for a good racing pigeon is around the $2,800 range. So it’s like, maybe call that like 2500 pounds somewhere on the. Imagine if you could train up just like a general pigeon. That’s the Trafalgar Square pigeon. Yeah.
You go up to London, grab a pigeon and enter it into one of these races, see what happens. Yeah. $2,800. I just can’t think what’s what’s the reason? What is driving somebody to want to race pigeons? Yeah. And I mean, obviously they’re going to be a lot more, but the equivalent if you were to scale up a pigeon to horse size.
Okay. Right. How much would a racing horse cost in, in relation. Do you know what I’m saying? I’m, I’m not actually suggesting we scale. But if you were to say a pigeon is like a a sixth of the price of a no, sorry, a pigeon is probably. Well, what is it? Probably about 1/16 the size of a horse.
Does that mean a racehorse is going to be one, 6 or 16 times more expensive than a race pigeon? Well, a quick Google will tell me that a racehorse can cost anything from several thousand to hundreds of thousands or even millions of pounds. Is is now hundreds of thousands. Doesn’t, it doesn’t surprise me much, but do you think what these horses are earning, it’s like, money wise, maybe.
Maybe that’s what’s driving these people. Is probably betting, isn’t it? Yeah, well, even the racing pigeon people, they’re probably putting bets down as to who’s going to get their first match. And I imagine it’s quite a big deal for people that actually know a thing or two about it. I guess two idiots. Yeah. But what makes you look at, like a pigeon and go for that’s the pigeon.
Someone’s going to race first. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if they give them stupid names as well. You know, like horses. They give these. Yeah. Yeah, I imagine they do. So names like blue Candy cane, Elmo’s Fire sign and, But what’s a film? What are Elmo’s fire? Saint Elmo’s fire? I think it’s a film. I don’t know, or maybe like a horror.
Yeah, some sort of Sesame Street or something. Oh, although I just saw, you know, our favorite Nick cage. Yeah. Has just done a, there’s a new horror film that he’s put out on. I think it’s Amazon or something that’s just come out Netflix. Is it Netflix? I don’t know, but it’s it’s got to do where he goes into this old, old house.
And I think he mentioned, like, it’s a pizzeria, you know, in the States. Yeah. They’ve got these, like, Chucky cheeses or. Yes, something along those lines. I think it’s got to do with that. But then everything inside the restaurant comes alive and wants to kill him. Oh, I mean, yeah. Now, that sounds like Nic Cage. Nic cage, his best role.
I’ve got to watch this. Yeah, I don’t know, that sounds pretty creepy, but, the reason I was so, so excited is that I hear that there’s a, there’s a film on Netflix at the moment. It’s making everyone really uneasy and making people actually physically sick. But I don’t know. What is this? I don’t know, it’s just I’ve been told about it and it’s on Netflix and it’s weird, but I don’t really know.
Do you think they’re kind of pushing the boundaries a little bit too far, like just trying to get. Oh yeah. So people can get, you know, isn’t it. Yeah. I mean yeah. You take Squid Game, did you watch Squid Game? No, I hadn’t seen games. I can’t remember what it was called, but that was kind of. Well, it’s actually not to different from like old.
I don’t know if you saw was it battleground but no. Oh crap. What was it called? Come on. Japanese film. Know what? It’s basically loads of people. I think it’s schoolkids. They’re all really bad students and they get put on an island and they have to basically kill each other, that sort of thing. But they did like the next level with Squid Game.
And it was, it was pretty cool. But I don’t know. Yeah, maybe there were a couple of there are a couple of shows where I’m just like, I think even The Walking Dead, I think I’ve got a few seasons in, and there was just one particular scene. I’m sick, the under. Why? I’m watching the same. I think it was same with me with Walking Dead of.
I came out of it about series four. I was just like, this is just getting old now. Yeah. Bored. Well, especially, we’ve spoken about how you can start criticizing everything people do, and, you know, they trying to do it because I need to create more action in there. But it’s like, guys, why aren’t you clearing the fence that’s full of zombies that are just, you know, and why don’t you just cover that whole.
Because, you know, people are going to come through there. Why don’t you just do that? Then I will, we’ll leave it. It’s fine. Don’t worry about it. And yeah, of course that happens. And so, cast. Okay, here we go again. Yeah, yeah, it was very tight. Who’s going to be the bad guy in this series? Who’s going to be back on this series?
It was. Yeah. But, I actually want to get back to race horses. Are you do you have you’re betting man, have you been to the track? No, no, I mean, the track is quite a big thing here as well as nice. Well, you’ve got the big races. What do you call them? Like I want to say Cheltenham Festival festivals like this.
Yeah. Yeah. Where they’ll call it a festival, but it’s more or less just one big race that I think sort of ends with one big race, doesn’t it? I think I don’t, I’m not. Yeah, maybe it’s just shows, knowledge of. Yeah. So obviously no, I’m not a betting man, but you know, you got the Grand National. That’s obviously the, the one big race.
Yeah. I wonder how much 50 and Sarah 91 leaves. It’s like a bell that will run out. That was the name of the Japanese film Battle Royale. Okay, I’ll have to look that one up. I was literally going to say it’s like a battle royale for horses. Then it sort of thing. Maybe it is. Yeah. I wonder why they even need jockeys on horses nowadays.
Because have you seen them. They’re very little. Yeah. You don’t have jockeys on the 100 meter sprinters do you. In the Olympics.
Too much of it I mean it’s really it’s everyone’s just a carry a cat or something. Yeah. Well they’re just kind of sitting on the same both shoulders. Just like whipping him.
Well why do they do it? Because I suppose the horses have got to be steered in some way, haven’t they? Always. They just go and do their own thing. That dumb horses are dumb animals. Yeah, I but it probably give them enough incentive to, This could have been to our conversation on eating horses, but yeah, it’s probably getting it that way.
Yeah. Well, let’s that’s what happens. I think if they break a leg or something, they’re pretty much, you know, if there is. Hell yeah. They in the horse. That’s a duck. Okay. We’ll write that that off. Yeah. And, straight to the glue factory for you. Yeah. So I don’t know if that was really a thing. Was. That’s all it was.
I was an animal farm. Well, it’s a no no, I think I, I do think if I mean, I may be way off here, but yeah, I feel like if a horse goes over and breaks the leg, then they just pull off a I think. Yeah. I don’t know if that can be real. Can it’s like, I’m sure Peta but it’s a, it’s a Peter.
Peter. Yeah, yeah. Peta the, the animal activists would have something to say about this. Yeah, that’s a very good point. They probably would. Yeah. But I just wonder the you got all you got, although you’ll have these, what do you call them that the jockeys that are on the top of the horse, these jockeys must still weigh.
What’s the average weights for jockey? I’m going to say probably. They probably be like 50 kilos. So when they want them to weigh absolutely nothing. Then you hear that the. You can hear somebody, some idiots outside revving their revving their engine, wondering if it’s getting picked up on the, the colony or anything. Well, actually, it might be a helicopter.
Okay. Yeah, I think it’s a helicopter right over our house. No fun. Yep. It is. Nick. Sorry, sorry. Really put me off, I couldn’t concentrate. That’s right. We’ll edit that out. Okay. No, we’ll we’ll just leave it in this space. It off again. Again. Put it in. No jockeys have to weigh what’s. What is jockey weigh?
Probably 50 kilos. Yeah, 50 kilos maybe, but. But do you think that’s 50 kilos on horseback? Surely they’re going to be first with a jockey on. Yeah, but they can’t be like they’re, they’re not going to know where to go. Well I know give them incentives which we’ve dangle a carrot. They don’t have. You don’t see jockeys on dogs.
You know when they do the dog racing. Greyhound racing. Yeah. But then the greyhounds, the chasing that rabbit thing. Only. Yeah. So.
Yeah. The. That’s our incentive. I don’t think horses. I guess dogs are like the carnivores. Yeah, but. And incentivized carnivores, not vegans.
Well, yeah, I don’t know, unless unless you get somebody, like, chasing them from behind the a chainsaw or something and. Oh, all of a sudden they’ll be running. Yeah. Like okay. Yeah. Right. I know right direction. No. And horses are big, you know. Have you seen horses without jockeys? Just do what they want. They just crash through things and smash into things.
What horses do? Yeah, whenever the like. If a jockey comes off and the horse carries on, that horse is gone all over the show. Yeah. Maybe they need. Because what does quite often happen is you’ll see the, the horse without a jockey, following the the leader of the horse is the leader of the other people in the race.
So carry you know, if they’re further back, they might follow the people in the race. So maybe maybe you can just set one off. That’s like a pretty fast horse and then release the others. And then that’s how you’d keep them in the right direction. Why don’t you just have the first horse in the race, then, but then you can’t get them into the old.
You can’t get them into the old starting blocks without a jockey. That’s the other thing. Yeah. I don’t know if they just haven’t trained to to do you. We’ve taken this long, but we’ve done it this way for so long. They’ve not been trained to do it. I don’t know, it’s weird. Yeah, it’s a fair point. Yeah. But again why why do we need so many different races?
Yeah. I mean, I know everyone’s got their interests and, you know, horses are lovely now. They’re not. They just, you know, they they’re not for me. No. But then you’ve got dog races, you know, the greyhounds. Yeah. And then you got Formula One. Yeah. Mistakes like the track. Yeah. Yeah. It’s okay. Everyone’s got to have something haven’t they.
Like everyone has to have their interest. Like. But again this has to be a male orientated thing. Doesn’t is because you know what it’s like when you’re a kid who can beat the other person who’s fastest male or you. Yeah, exactly. It’s the issue that I was, I was thinking even, you know, the the luge. Or is it like the shuttle luge thing that they do race in the Olympics?
Yeah, that’s another race. Bobsleigh. But what do they, what is what is. Yeah. What was it called? The the movie with that, runnings Cool Runnings. It’s getting the rhythm. That’s such a good film. Yeah, it is based on a true story as well, wasn’t it? Yeah. I think from the actual crash. That’s crazy. But, you know, first of all, you got to these people like, we’ll go down these gluteus or whatever else.
First of all, it takes a bit of balls to do that. But then you got some nutcase going. I bet I can do this quicker than you can. Yeah, and that’s how it starts. Yeah. Which is actually quite terrifying to do that. I’ve got a lot more. Yeah, a lot more time for those guys than I do the horse racing.
Yeah. So those guys are actually like, prop their proper nutters. Well, what do you think? What training do you think a jockey does? Because they’ve got to be in fairly good condition. Okay. So you got to eat Plato or something, I don’t know. And then what else? You can’t. You can’t lift weights because you don’t want to put on muscle mass.
What about your legs? Your legs are going to want to be strong. I don’t know, you got to sit in that like squat in position the whole time. It’s a cerebral, my, my one brother in law telling me, you know, it’s his thoughts on cyclists. And, you know, we’ve got to write them before, but they have. Yeah, that’s another race.
But they have the shittiest build in history, don’t they? Okay. Yeah. Massive legs, tiny little upper body. Yeah. Upper body is like tiny bit of a bullet. You know, there’s this, like, legs are huge. Especially when they call them the the velodrome. Yeah. Yeah. Which the velodrome. So like the NASCAR of cycling. Yeah. Have you ever been in one.
This is surprisingly high. Like really tall. Like where the people up in the stands. It it’s like, well, high up. Yeah. I feel like, you know, if you ride your bike up to the top of there. You crazy? But if you decide to make that a thing, like, you know, what you really need is this thing that goes around in circles.
But then we need it. I’m assuming that incline from what you’re saying now, that incline is going to be what at least 30, 30 degrees or something. Yeah. Because you think the people think they slow down quite a bit when they get to the top of the, the angle would be, it’s quite this is why we need geometry in schools.
Yeah. Yeah that’s pretty mad though. It’s pretty crazy. But yeah everyone’s got this. You should visit races. You should visit one just to see what, what it’s like. Yeah. I think, but I think the probably the most thrilling race for me where I’m gonna go, jeez, these guys have skill is also rally racing. Yeah, like rally car racing.
Oh, when I was young, I was. I really wanted to do that. I thought rally, rally car driving would be awesome. Just driving down some of the country lanes in in England. You think about it, don’t you? Us? I definitely think about it several times. And I want to go full blast, but, then realize there’s probably someone around the corner doing some old age.
Yeah. Have you, have you been up to, like, the Lake District at all? No, the, there’s some roads up there. Just incredible. Like, I remember we went up for a wedding with some other people, and I think we might have met up and gone in convoy, because I remember I was driving around these roads and, my wife, I have my wife in the car and, one of her friends, a friend, said, right, Jeremy Clarkson, slow down because I was just like, get, the that was such a, like, such a fun road.
And. Yeah, behind me, my mate, we’re still in the exact same thing. And then when we got out of the car, he was like, that was really fun, wasn’t it? Some of those roads were really cool. Yeah, that’s that’s when it reminds me even having the the motorbike as well is there are certain roads that you can go down and you just you can you just float because you can.
Yeah. You know, you got that power behind you. But yeah. As you start getting older, you just start thinking of all the consequences and, you know, the what ifs. So the fear sets in a little bit. And so, probably shouldn’t. It’s a thing of like, growing up, isn’t it really? Just like, oh, man, I don’t when you’re a kid, you go, I can’t wait till I’m older because I’m going to have all this money.
I’m going to be able to do whatever I want to do. I’m going to buy a house, buy a car, and I’m not gonna let my boss tell me what to do. Yeah, yeah. And, reality sets in, in. Yeah. It just doesn’t work that way, does it? No, not really, but what would you like as an 18 year old then?
We, you and your mates. A bit like on the edge. Oh what? Like driving. Yeah. Oh yeah. When you first pass, what’s the, what’s the legal age for driving in. It’s not before. And so. And, I can’t remember, but yeah, at 17 you can get your, like, learner’s license. And then, from there, you get your driver’s license when you’re 18, right?
So you don’t need to have tests and everything old. Yeah, yeah, it’s still a, back in my day, we had to do a theory. A theory test? Yeah, for your learner’s license. Yeah. Oh, I’ve got to tell you about that. But, yes, I had a theory test, which is just like an offense, which was. Oh, they sit you in the room with a guy that looks like Mr. Smith from the matrix, and he’s telling you what to do, but you’re in this little cubicle, and you have to.
Exactly. I can’t remember how it went, but, yeah, it’s just a cool. Exactly. Yeah. It’s just multiple choice. Yeah. To do do that and then hand your paper back and start asking things like, oh, you know, you got to follow the rules of the road, you know, keep left pass right. And this is the steering wheel and that’s a drive on the same side of the road.
Yeah, yeah. Well, most people do them. Yeah, the normal people do. Yeah, yeah. But then yeah, when you do your license, your, your actual driver’s license, you got to go through the whole test. But I don’t know what it is like for you. And you had to do your theory test checks. I, I did my motorcycle license in this country.
Okay. Yeah. Did you, did you have to do a computer test for your theory? Yeah, yeah. And then and it was multiple choice. But I had to like from from memory. This was a long time ago, but it had. It’s 20 years ago. In fact. There was like little videos playing of like, spot the accident or click the mouse.
When do you think there’s going to be like a has it alive. Yeah. That that was the most perception test. Saw it quite rough. So for for everybody else what happens is it gives you certain situations because again we didn’t have this in South Africa because we didn’t have computers. But it would give you these, almost CGI as they, they weren’t like real.
Yeah, moments, but they were kind of computer made videos with a car driving. And then there’ll be certain incidents that will come up, like a kid will run in front of the car or something. You’ve got to stick to. To what? That there’s an event that’s going to perhaps cause an incident or an accident. When do you need to to certain emergency stop sort of business.
Yeah. Yeah. And and I highly disagreed with a lot of what was going on because I remember there was one where I saw the cyclist kind of going down. I mean, you know, with cyclists they’ll do whatever they’re like. Yep. So the cyclist came down as soon as I saw the cyclist, I stopped flicking this. You my my mouse.
That’s like. And it did. It brought up a warning with that one saying, oh, you’ve clicked it too many times. And you know, if you continue doing like this, you’re going to fail the test like it’s a sign. It’s a cyclist. I think I’m well within my reason. So. Yeah. So yeah, it’s just it’s so cool that they’ve got those kind of it’s that those kinds of technologies now it’s like I think they’ve made it, made it more difficult as the, as the years have gone on, I think it was a lot easier to pass back in my day.
I think back in my day, I think even nowadays, even on your test, you have to open up the, open up the hood, open up the bonnet, and you’ve got to identify certain parts of the engine bay or what exactly? I mean, I don’t know, in modern cause. So I’ve just had a problem with my, with my vehicle recently, which is a fairly modern vehicle, and I don’t, I’m it doesn’t help.
I’m not really a car person either, but you open it up. It’s all just plastic. Yeah. If you touch anything in that car, the ECU goes off and it’s basically we don’t know what what’s going on. And we’ll stop the car immediately. So it’s like, why? Why do you need to check anything as well. Yeah. So you took so I carry on I go on, when you say things were a bit easier in my day, that kind of makes me a so quite a bit about it’s was what do you think it was like for Royal Marines training back in the day, or Navy Seals.
Do you think the the training has got progressively harder. Yeah. Over, over time. Like how how long how far back are we going to we just sort of generalizing here. Well I’m going to go back to the Royal Marines back in. They must been established with World War One. Yeah. I would just post World War one, Special Forces, US Royal Marines.
That’s different to the Royal Navy isn’t it. Yeah. So yeah both we either either. Which way because the Royal Navy’s been around for donkey’s years hasn’t it. Right way way back. Oh expects as long as boats have been around for whereas donkey’s years come from.
I don’t know how long. Maybe it’s how long you want to say two year. I don’t know how much is a it’s just a, a donkey is what, seven, seven years now? Is it. Yeah. Cat cats is knowing or is it. Yeah. Sorry, we’re getting off subject anyway. Navy. Has the training got harder? Yeah, I think it has.
I think I think they’re more expected to be, like, super superhumans, basically. Now, you don’t think? Yeah, I think it’s probably gotten significantly harder, you know, as as it’s gone year on year, people just keep adding an extra thing, an extra thing. And it makes me wonder if the people that were originally, you know, Marines or, you know, Navy Special back in the old days, would they would they have been able to do what you can do now?
I mean, we’ll we’ll go on to, the our favorite CrossFit I was watching I was watching a documentary about, a little bit of CrossFit on one of the games, and they were saying that, for example, what the guys were finishing this is probably going back. I’m going to say, you know, maybe millenniums somewhere on there, what they were finishing on their weights is what people are now warming up with in terms of CrossFit now, like they’re starting weights.
So it’s like how the sport evolves and makes you kind of know what is achievable and what’s not. So do you think in like in the future? So say like I, I bench or 80 kilos. Is that going to be people’s warmup weights in like 50 years time, 100 years? I mean some people it is now I expect that well, I mean that all comes down to human evolution doesn’t it.
Yeah. Which we probably going to need to touch on on the next episode. All righty. Cool. That’s all for this one. Yeah. Find us over on Twitter at the Continuum Pod or email us Gmail. The Continuum Podcast gmail.com. Link in the next one. See you later. Thanks, guys. Cheers. But.