Episode 016 – Jobs to Collectibles

Episode Summary:

In this episode, Kyle and Adam dive into the winding, unexpected paths of their early working lives — from shifting jobs and duct-fitting to deli counters, kitchen work, and short-lived stints in waitering. The two swap stories about the realities of service work, tipping culture, and the strange systems behind restaurants and wages.

Their chat takes a classic Continuum turn into film, pop-culture, and tech rabbit holes — including Bruce Willis’ Die Hard air-vent scene, deepfakes, AI eye-tracking, and why Tom Cruise might secretly be several people wearing his face. From there, they drift into a surprisingly philosophical chat about kids’ TV shows: Peppa Pig’s questionable attitude, the wholesome brilliance of Bluey, Ryder’s inexplicable authority in Paw Patrol, and how children’s cartoons stack up against the ones they grew up with.

The episode wraps with a look at nostalgia and collections — from Ninja Turtles lore to Star Wars toys to the random objects that unintentionally become the beginnings of a personal collection. A fun, meandering conversation about work, childhood shows, and the strange things we end up collecting along the way.

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And welcome back to the continuum, everybody. I’m Kyle and in the other corner is my good friend Adam. How are you doing? Yeah, it was good. I just thank you very much, sir. So, we left the last one. I was asking you about your previous work experience jobs, wasn’t it? We’re on jobs. Not. Not Steve, not Steve.

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No. We’re talking about our jobs, our careers. If you can call it that. So we know you’ve done a bit of shifting. Yeah. Yeah, I’ve done a bit of shifting. Well, I’ve done, you know what? I’ve done quite a lot of different things. So shipping was obviously one of the big ones. And it’s I think I said in a previous episode, there’s something I’d always wanted to do.
And actually given the chance to do it is I. Yeah, maybe I don’t want to do this anymore, but, so what other jobs have I had? I’ve been I’ve fitted air conditioning ducting, don’t I? Okay. Like like the units, the old the metal things, which actually sort of reminds me, you know, the big, the big well, the ducting, the, the square stuff the McClane cruise through in, in.
Oh yeah, I had. Yeah. Every time I see that scene, I’m like, I wouldn’t work. You can’t, you can’t go for it, I don’t care, I don’t care what you do it. Like if I say I don’t remember that scene, is that in bad taste at the moment? You don’t remember that scene? That’s a pretty popular scene. But no, it’s just because Bruce Willis has just been confirmed to have.
Oh, God. Yeah, that is in bad taste. Yeah, he won’t remember. It’s. It’s fine. Yeah. It’s fine. Anyway, you can’t proofread for the amount of screws that would probably be in those ducting things and the amount of crap at them as well. I’ve had to, like, take old ducting stuff out before putting a new ducting in. And that is disgusting.
Like, and also it gets smaller as you go through. So so so a lot as a, as a kind of starts going towards the actual ventilation expansion because the whole point, like the air will reduce as it goes through. There’s only so much you can get through it. So like to maintain a maximum pressure, it’s got to get smaller as it goes.
Okay. Yeah. No. You do realize you’re in England. Yeah. This isn’t this isn’t America. We still have England. This isn’t Hollywood. Yeah. No, I know, we still. Yeah. I don’t know the proper Hollywood ventilations. I think, that I watch. Have you ever seen that, that show on Netflix? It’s the films that made us.
And one of those companies, it’s such a popular film, but they’re talking about in Die Hard. I think there was one scene where, Bruce Willis had to jump from, like, I think one, one vent to another vents or something, but I think he ended up kind of her to give herself funny when he did that scene as well.
Yeah, yeah. And wouldn’t surprise me if he actually did the stunt, I think. So, I mean, it’s kind of the same as Tom cruise, isn’t it? Yeah, I think Tom cruise does do it. Stunts done me. So they say, you know, I’ve watched Mission Impossible. I’ve seen his face. Tricky. Where somebody else’s face, someone could be wearing Tom Cruise’s face.
Do you know? Do you see that? Have you seen the, There’s a dude. The story deep fakes. Tom cruise all the time. Have you seen that? Well, I’ve seen one of the one of the, videos he’s done, I think. Yeah, it’s really weird. It’s bizarre. I mean, it looks quite, quite good. Yeah. It is. There are moments within, you know, in the video where it sort of.
I think he’s got to keep his face in like a particular position as me, because I do think like the there are moments in the video, if he turns too much, it sort of like flickers out slightly. Yeah. They said artificial intelligence. That kind of just doesn’t pick that up again. Yeah. It’s weird. Have you seen that? That one?
I saw an AI as well where the when people are doing, let’s say doing podcasts love what they doing streams and and that way when the guys they’ve they’ve got this I know where basically changes where it will keep your focus or your eyes on where you’re looking. So say, for example, reading the screen on the right, when I’m reading the screen on the right, my eyes will continue looking at the camera.
So that’s just the way that I was doing it. So I can turn my head and my eyes keep looking forward, like I’m actually engaged with the audience. The whole time. Yeah, I bet Alex with the really creepy. Yeah. When this person just kind of keeps moving, it just kind of always got their eyes on you. Yeah. It’s weird.
So strange. I don’t like that. I’m guessing I don’t. Yeah, I was going to say so. Other jobs in a video. What’s the most boring job? I don’t know, really. I don’t really have. I had boring jobs. I think to me, I need to think back to what I’ve, I worked on a delicatessen. That was quite fun, actually.
Was that, We can say it. I could imagine the fancy subway. No, no, it’s in in, like, a supermarket. You know, you get the meat counters and the. Oh, yes. Yeah. And the cheese counters. It’s one of those deli. Okay. I suppose in, in some places. Deli. Delis. Sandwich shops aren’t they. Delicatessen. Yeah. Anytime I think of a delicatessen just reminds me of The Sopranos or something on the.
Get some salami. Salami? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s it’s strange. I think one of the shortest jobs I’ve ever had. Went and, tried to do waiter and, you know, as he kind of. You’re in the chef and restaurant trade in there. Yeah, I did, I did waitress, I think I lasted two days. Yeah, well, my before I got into shifting the first thing.
So long story short, basically, my mum got me a job at a restaurant near to where we were moving. So I went and did a shift that night, and I. I assumed that I’d be in the kitchen, despite me being like 17. I thought, just being there, you know, maybe I’ll learn a bit in that, which I eventually did.
But the first shift was waiting, waiting tables. And I was like, I don’t really want to do this. I was like that, but I think I think I said to him, can’t I work in the kitchen? Right. Yeah, yeah. You can say, can you get started with the queue less people, please. Yeah, yeah. Because let’s face it, people are the real issue in life.
Yeah. I tried, I tried the waiter thing for a couple of days, and I had a fairly, fancy. I say fancy like, it was a, it was a kind of cocktail bar. Lounge. I mean, they, they call them news cafes back in South Africa. I’m trying to think what might be an equivalent thing, but, you know, kind of like a fancy pub.
You go or restaurant, you go there, you go get cocktails, you know, cheap cocktails. That one called a, Pan Galactic Gargle blaster.
And I think I think that was from the amount of shit you make up for this podcast. This is hilarious. A Pango tastic sparkle blaster, was it? No, I think it was actually a, I don’t know if it’s a nod to Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Oh, right. And I think I think I’ve only seen them once.
So. And you read the books or you never, never read the book. You know me, I don’t read. Yeah, well, okay. Fine. I would know me, though. I read, I listen to all the books. But yeah. Sure, sure. There was mention of that in, in one of the books of Pain, Galactic Gargle blaster. Yeah. So you have, you have a couple of those and you, you’ve finished.
So ready do you remember. We’ll send them. Oh, no. I’ll have to, look at it on the net, but it’s too long to talk. So look it up. Look for, But I thought working at one of those places because I did food as well. And that’s one of the things I obviously push quite a lot is, you know, the month’s profit that you get in food and cocktails as well.
So I can just keep, keep pushing it. So we did that. And I think by the first night I ended up walking away with maybe equivalents of like £20, you know, and I was like tips. Oh yeah. Yeah. I was like, this isn’t worth it if that was your entire wage for that shift. Yeah. I think from a thing, from memory, it’s kind of difference obviously if I’m exchanging and that.
But yeah, I think at that time, yeah, everything you earned was all tips. All right. So yeah this is. Yeah. See I had the in the place that I worked as a chef, I did I had like an hourly rate which wasn’t great. But I also got tips for every shift I worked. You know, everyone would sort their tip at the end of the night, I would divide the tips up for each person, and then that person would have their sort of kitty, if you like, of of tips, money, of tip money.
And a lot of the time I could just save my wages and then live off my tips. So, you know, we go for what was what was this? It’s just in a pub in, in Russia. No, no, it sounds very communist. No, it’s it’s a good way of doing it, because then if you know, the people that worked that shift get all the tips rather than splitting it between everyone that’s worked.
I worked in another kitchen where I think all the all the tips went in together and everyone got at the end of the month in their pay packet. And I think, you know, that’s not really fair because some people might when you’ve done a couple of shifts. But yeah, I mean, it makes sense from that point of view.
But what about that person who’s just like a, not a very good waiter or, you know, then they’re not pulling the weight? Yeah. There is that as well, I suppose. Then you kind of distributing it’s amongst everybody a second. Well, that’s not very fair. But you know, in, in a lot of cases I think the chefs don’t normally get tipped.
So it was actually quite nice. You know what I mean? The chefs in that point of view, the waiting staff like in America, they’re all kind of matching the, the people behind the scenes. Get any of the tips, do they? Because the waiting staff live off their tips I believe so. So it’s another thing like a tipping culture.
Tipping culture is kind of changing here as well, wasn’t it? Oh, over here at the service, service charges are always sort of added at the moment, I feel like more and more place is just at the most like a compulsory or not even compulsory. They just put it on your bill and that’s that. They don’t really sort of.
You can obviously say, I’m not paying a tip, which I think I’ve said before, oh, I’ve done that numerous times. No, I think I’ve mentioned it on the podcast before where I had the the waiter spill, spill my beer on me, drop my food on the floor, and I expect to the tip at the end of it. Oh no, thank you.
That’s not happening. You can remove that right now. But yeah, it’s pretty presumptuous to put the service charge straight on the bill. Yeah. But why do they do it a t thing? It’s because that’s more and more people probably don’t want to tip. Yeah, but again, it’s everyone. This is again coming from a person who’s worked two days as a waiter.
Yeah. You know, I don’t think it should be expected, especially because everyone’s getting at least the National Living Wage or, you know, whatever. So they’re all getting that, you know, again, it’s not the states and it’s again how much the eats happen. I don’t know. It’s for me though like I’d be happy to tip if the service is good and the food’s good.
If you’ve got one or the other and it’s just crap, then why would you, you know. Yeah. Don’t put it on my bill. Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe they’ve just got. They just don’t trust the fact that people are actually going to tip. Well, I’ve, I’ve actually often wondered if you can do a tip. Why do you also need to.
I don’t know how some places deal with it. You know, some pubs and restaurants are going to be quite dodgy with its as well because if you’re going to be paying by card goes into their bank account. And then how are they again reallocating that. Because like you said cash if it’s going through obviously the government wants to tax you on this.
You know, that’s why that’s why they invented currency. As I mentioned previously. So is it do you think it’s a government thing directing the government to saying you can’t you can’t earn tips anymore in cash? You’ve got to put it as the you got to add it on the bill. Yeah. Well, essentially it’s yeah you’re right. If they pay, if it goes in by card, that’s going to get taxed.
Surely. Yeah. It’s got to go through to them at some point. But again is a is a tip I would say tip is a gift isn’t it. Yeah I mean technically gifts aren’t taxable. Yeah. No but they are only. Yeah yeah. Inheritance. You get inheritance tax these days and things like the inheritance tax isn’t a gift. I mean kindness isn’t it?
Isn’t it? You know, I think, no, you can. So I’m pretty sure you can gift a certain amount of the inheritance before you’ve passed on. Okay. But if you gift too much, then, yeah, you get and you get taxed on it. Okay. What happens if you gift and then you die? I suppose there’s there’s probably a threshold date.
Something they’ve thought of everything having the. Yeah. Thieving bastards. I say this in jest. Please don’t take me away. Government. Yeah. Please don’t. Please don’t. I need to talk to somebody. Actually, we could still do this. If you’re in jail, it’s fine. Okay, well, but don’t say that, okay. Yes, I know, what are we doing? So I was just thinking about podcasting in jail, and, you know, being.
We could talk about that if you want. How many I want? There must be podcasts out there, actually. That or, by prisoners in jail cells. They might be. I mean, they probably get more listeners than we do. Yeah, probably. I mean, it’s probably like a Dear Diary thing. I mean, if if no one’s doing it, maybe we need to start at, like, we don’t actually have to be in jail.
You know, tales from jail We Can Do That tells the Tales from Jail podcast. That sounds pretty. Pretty catchy, actually. But we don’t actually have to be in jail. We’re gonna make up stories. We can be cellmates. You could just tell me a story. You know, you could just one day, you could just talk. And then the next day, I could talk about, you know, my my life in the yard.
And, you know, this fall came up to me when I was bench in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he leant on the weights. I got up and shift his ass exactly with my toothbrush. Then Vinnie Jones came in that I manufactured into a shiv, and then Vinnie Jones appeared. And the guv wanted him to play football against the guards.
You know, seen that film? Yeah. Of course. You know the reason the film is based on, I’m not sure it’s a it’s based on the, The Longest Yard, which, Yeah. Yeah, with Adam Sandler, but it was wonderful. Originally. Yeah. Who? But ran, I think it was not a thing. I don’t think I saw the original original one, and the other one was three versions of that film being the main machine.
Yeah, me me me machine. It is good. I mean, it is as good as a Vinnie Jones film could be. That. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So okay I’ll, I’ll start writing the script for the, cheat sheet. What. Tales from jail. It was from jail. The tales from jail podcast. Yeah, that sounds pretty good. And, we’ll see.
See where that takes us. So. Yeah, but one thing I was, thinking about when it came to, jobs is what what do you think? A dream job is or would be? Oh, I don’t know. I’d like to do some voiceover work. I mean, I know I’ve got a pretty boring, like, podcasting. Yeah, kind of like podcasting, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah, I would like to, I don’t know. What do you mean? Being, being an actor on comparison? No, not Peppa Pig. Although I can do all the pig accents now, can you? I’ve watched so much. It’s really bad. What are you doing? Impressions or characters? What are your thoughts on Peppa Pig? Because, I found actually, I think she’s quite obnoxious and quite rude.
I think her family is quite rude. Yeah, very obnoxious. No, no, not so much rude. But that dad is very arrogant. I don’t know if you notice. He’s like, I’m excellent at this. Just hold. Hold my beer. I’m an excellent at this one. Say yeah. Okay. He’s that kind of guy. The mums lost me all that.
Yeah. They all list mums. No, I didn’t. The listeners have got to understand, I, although I may say things to that sound upsetting, I’m just doing it to make Kyle laugh. Yeah. Oh, that’s okay. Don’t worry. The wives are never going to listen to this. It’s okay. Right. But, yeah, Peppa is a rhino dick. She,
Just again. Yeah. And just in she, you know. No, no, please. No. Thank you, sir, it’s just, I don’t know the wrong attitude. And I think that actually rubs off on our children as well. That’s the game is Peppa. Peppa pig is a bad influence on the UK culture. Now, a different kind of, cartoon quickly. Is that you?
You told me to watch it many a time, and I thought, I don’t know what you’re talking about because I actually thought it was a different show, but, Bluey is probably one of my favorite all time shows as far as kids shows go. It is brilliant and it is so funny, but also for everyone. But I wonder if you have to have sometimes have kids or know people that have kids to kind of appreciate it.
Yeah. And have your and and be able to actually form an opinion because many people might be listening and thinking, what the hell is Peppa Pig? Yeah. And really, it’s just not worth looking into. Bluey, on the other hand, it’s so funny, but it’s worth looking into. Yeah, it’s brilliant. It every, every character in that is, is really good fun.
Just fun. In fact, the the dad in that program is the kind of dad that I want to be. Yeah, I think that’s every dad. You know, he’s he’s the hero. He makes me feel terrible as a father. Yeah, that’s the problem. How can we live up to that? He’s just like he’s willing to play every single game, and he gets.
I get stuck into it. I mean, yeah, takes on the role. That’s what makes me feel bad. But there’s certain episodes that I’ll watch where I. And I know it’s a cartoon, but you kind of do. You know, when it’s that I want to. I want to call it Uncanny Valley, where it’s like, I don’t know if they are still if the cartoon characters are still acting or it’s actually happening to them.
Did you ever watch the feather wand episode? Yes. Yeah. So I know exactly what you mean. So Bingo’s got this feather one where she makes everything heavy and put like. And I know they’re cartoon characters and they’re acting, but when the acting and the acting so well, you kind of thinking. Wait, is everyone through? Is you just real to them, or are they faking it because they faking it really?
Well, you. Oh, they go on the left. Oh yeah. I have to go and watch some Bluey in a minute. Yeah. I think that’s the thing. When you start watching these shows, you’re looking to, especially as you get older, I’ve sort of so cynical about things, and I analyze everything this way, way more than I need to.
Even watching Paw Patrol, you know, watch Paw patrol now, and, you know, you got this kid Ryder, who’s now in charge of the entire police and fire department. What are his qualifications? How did that would’ve never happened? Why is he in this role? How did he get this room? How are they affording this? Where does the budget come from?
You know, I just don’t understand. In this, in this town. Why does some of the dog speak? I just don’t get it. Doesn’t make sense to me. But. But Bluey makes sense. Like, I’ve not really questioned Bluey too much. You can’t, can you? I am so well, from your childhood. And what do you remember of kids shows of that sort of era?
Do you remember much? Oh. Or what was it you used to watch? And I’m still watching. Watching them now. Yeah. Yeah, but those remakes now, aren’t they? No, I’m. I say I’m still a child at hearts and I still watch silly cartoons. I’ve actually just bought one recently off of Amazon is the, Courage the Cowardly Dog show.
Courage the Cowardly Dog? I don’t know that one. I don’t think so. That’s, It’s very twisted. Kind of, about a dog who’s in the middle of nowhere with his owners. But then it’s kind of like, got a horror genre to it. It’s very strange. You used to watch this when you were, like, five years old or something.
Oh, no. No, sorry. This is that was probably going to some maybe early teens, if that’s okay. If we’re talking that young. Yeah. I’m still in the process of finishing gargoyles and gargoyles. I think so, yeah, I think so. Yeah, that that was kind of. What’s that? Bark moss from Mars? Yeah. Ninja turtles, in St Louis over heroes.
Hero turtles? Yeah. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah. Ninjas were bad with the Teenage Mutant. It it was the violence, wasn’t it, that they didn’t want. Although every episode, you know, they’d take out their, swords and their katanas or whatever. What were the things that, Rafael had? I don’t know what they called. They called the Falklands.
The folk things, you know, and they’d be like fighting people. So despite the fact that they changed it to Hero Turtles, they were still ninjas. They still did ninja stuff. So, yeah, someone, someone really went through an analysis. My, one of my family members was telling me this on a, on another podcast that he was listening to.
Someone was really analyzing that kind of over analyzing how the Ninja Turtles, different weapons. But you remember the, the the sensei was, splinter. Splinter. Yeah. And, he gave the weapons. He gave them, was based on their characters. So Raphael had those, like, fork things, but, those were primarily because he was such an aggressive character.
Those fork things are actually more of a defensive weapon. So it’s not like he was given a katana or anything. Could he be slicing people up like you say? Oh, throws off. Yes, I told my tongue there. But you know, it’s he would use it as a, yeah, to more of a defensive one. And then you’ve got, is it.
It wasn’t who, who had the, Leonardo that was, Michelangelo was about. Yeah. I think it’s Michelangelo at the in chucks, but basically he had the nunchucks because you’ve got to concentrate so much. And then he was like that place. It was like, yeah, it’s like he needed. He needed them in chunks to help him concentrate. And focus was like this, this, this, this Logia is this, you know, is this actually the reasons behind it, or is this like, you know, well, we said we talked about it before where people were making up stories, random backstories.
Yeah. I think it’s fan theories. It’s kind theory here built up over time. I don’t I don’t think it’s actually based on fact. I did watch the what? Wait, why does, I need to know now, where does Donatello get the, the bow staff? Because he he’s primarily technology based, and they just gave him a wooden stick.
Terrible. What is Leonardo? Get the sword and, I can’t remember. I’m gonna have to look this up because he’s sensible. I suppose he was the sensible one, wasn’t he? But he. He was the leader, wasn’t he? Yeah. So? So a leader gets a leader’s weapon? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, let’s just go with that. What?
Put it. Splinter would have had something, wouldn’t he? Do you have or just had a walking stick? I think. Just had a walking stick is probably enough for the heavy use that he was past ass. Yeah. Did you watch the Michael Bay films? No. Oh, man. I, I might Megan Fox. Angie. Yes. April. Yeah, yeah, I would say it’s worth a watch.
It’s, I think probably maybe. Well, that’s okay. Yeah, but did you, did you watch, again on on Netflix. They had the, the toys that made us. Yes and no. It’s. Yeah. Watch that. I’ve only seen one episode of that. Obviously I would because they recommend collective for. Yeah. So yeah I was just going to say about the the Star Wars collection, obviously it’s well, quite an insight into how it all sort of began.
And yeah, I’m obviously trying to have a little collection of my own. Was it all was was the whole start of pretty much the toy movie franchise and collection of toys as well. Wasn’t a. Yeah. Well I think so. There were of other bits around. But that was when it really kicked off and that’s all I want to say.
That’s probably the worst started as a collector’s thing. Maybe. Quite possibly. Oh yeah I would, I would say so. Because if you’ve got any other collections that are being started, Plymouth. No, no, just just that off this off my head, I did years ago, I collected, little racing helmets. And I’ve still got a few of them.
In fact, I’ve still got the five that I started as my collection, if you want to say, but, I never really sort of try, I don’t know, I never really sort of pictured it as a collection. I just liked the look of them at the time. I was like, yeah, they’re cool. I’m going to get those.
Isn’t that how a collection starts? Yeah, probably. Okay. Maybe I don’t I but I never I never really expanded on it. It was only twice. I only got to five. But I have got one in there that I found out. It’s quite rare we try a rock rhino. So when you say it’s really like how how much are we kind of talking value wise?
I’ve seen it on eBay for about £80. Oh, that’s, antiques Roadshow money right there. Yeah, yeah. What about you? Have you got anything, any antiques or anything that you’ve. I’ve gone through something. Yeah, I’ve, I’ve gone, I’ve gone through stages. I think we’ll, maybe have to touch on collectibles and. Yeah, action figures. And that’s in the next one.
Okay. You want to thank you then? Yeah. We’ll end the day. Everybody. So thanks for joining us. And yeah, we’ll see you all on the next one. See you later. Yes.


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